The Biological Being: A NEW BIOLOGY?

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0:00 Nobody has liver attacks, kidney attacks. They have heart attacks and brain attacks called strokes. No other
0:06 organ has attacks even though the blood is the same and the arteries are the same. Which led me to think it's got to
0:13 do with the organ, not the blood supply. You don't have to know what's true in order to know what's not true. That is a 0:20 fundamental principle of logic, rational thinking. If somebody says, "I had video 0:25 at a 7-Eleven where somebody was shot and killed, and it was a man between 18 and 60 wearing jeans, so you're under
0:33 arrest." You say, "Well, I wasn't there. I was in Singapore and not Boston." And the guy says, "Until you prove to me who 0:39 killed the guy, you're under arrest. That's ridiculous. All you have to prove is you weren't there." We proven that
0:45 that's not the cause of heart attacks. I didn't know what was, but eventually that became clear that it has to be
0:52 something to do with the heart and the brain, not the blood vessels. I know there's no atoms. I know blocked
0:57 arteries don't cause heart attacks. I know viruses don't exist. I know all those things for sure. It doesn't mean 1:04 that I know what causes somebody to be sick. I don't know who killed that guy. I know it wasn't me. That's called
1:10 thinking. Tom, right now in the world the number one cause of death is The actual cause of cardiovascular disease
1:15 cardiovascular disease. What is actually the cause of that?
1:21 Well, the number one cause of cardiovascular the one number one type
1:28 of cardiovascular disease is in the realm of anga unstable anga and heart
1:36 attacks. So, there's a lot of other kinds of heart disease like congestive heart
1:42 failure and atrial fibrillation and SVT and and a lot of other things, but most
1:49 people when they're referring to heart disease, they're referring to like heart
1:55 attacks, right? Yeah. [clears throat] Let's go there. And strokes. Yeah. So, the re, you know, other the 2:02 other ones have slightly different causes. Now,
2:07 if you ask pretty much any doctor, whether it's a cardiovascular surgeon or
2:13 a cardiologist or an internist or a family doctor or an alternative 2:20 practitioner or a functional medicine doctor, any of them, what causes people 2:27 to have heart attacks, right? That's that's what we're talking about. [snorts] 2:32 And they would say some variation of you have three major coronary arteries. 2:39 Those are the big blood vessels that bring the blood to the heart. And one or 2:44 more of them gets blocked with plaque. And then the blood can't get through. 2:51 And then downstream from the blockage there's not enough food and not enough 2:56 oxygen and you can't get rid of the waste products. And as that builds up 3:02 and under a stressful situation like exercise, there's an imbalance between 3:08 the oxygen uh delivery through the blood and the uh 3:15 need of the heart and then the uh that causes pain and then worse pain and then 3:22 necrosis or breakdown of the heart tissue. Then they would dispute what causes the 3:29 blockage. So the regular cardiologists and the cardiovascular surgeons would say it's 3:36 cholesterol or then they would eventually change that and say it's not 3:42 all cholesterol, it's LDL and then they eventually sort of change that and said 3:48 it's not all LDL, it's LP little A which is a type of cholesterol or a type of 3:54 lipoprotein basically. And so all those are causing a block. They're building up 4:01 in the artery and blocking and causing this stenosis and decreased blood flow. 4:09 Now the alternative holistic functional doctors would say no it's not 4:15 cholesterol it's not LP little A or maybe it is a little bit it's not LDL 4:20 it's inflammation and there's an inflammation in the blood vessels and that's for a lot of reasons 4:27 it could be an infection could be heavy metals could be stress could be bad diet 4:33 could be not enough exercise and that inflammation is the cause of the blockage. 4:42 The conventional doctors would say you got this blockage, you have to unblock it, right? You got a pipe and the pipe 4:50 is blocked. So you rotoroot it out, which called a stent or you bypass it, 4:56 which is called a bypass. Or you give statin drugs to lower the LP little A or 5:03 the LDL or the cholesterol. The functional alternative holistic doctors would say no you need a better 5:11 diet. You need to reduce the inflammation, reduce stress, get rid of 5:16 heavy metals, uh do chilation to get rid of the plaque buildup and then you don't 5:23 need any of those surgeries or the drugs. Okay, just to put that out there. 5:29 That's the normal thing. And then one out of a thousand 5:34 uh or less is me. And I say the whole thing doesn't have 5:41 anything to do with blocked arteries. Has nothing to do with that. And so 5:47 neither of those two approaches have any merit because that's not the problem. 5:55 Now where did I get that from? Right? Because out of a thousand people, 6:01 including the next hundred people walking down the street, you ask them why do people get 6:06 heart attacks? Because you get a blocked artery, right? If they know anything about it, they know that. 6:13 So, I don't know if you want me to keep going here. Yeah. Well, let's move into how you see 6:18 it. Right. So, it's not really it's it's a little bit how I see it, but how did I 6:23 get to see it the way I saw it? So if you the the first thing that struck me 6:30 was so I worked as an ER doctor for a while 6:35 and I also worked in a cardiac cath lab where they put the dye in and they see the blockages and all that. So I had a 6:42 certain experience with this because ER doctors see a lot of people with chest pain. And we were told that all the 6:49 blood to the heart goes through these three main arteries, right? and they 6:54 show you drawings of it. And I I don't I don't want to link to this, but I could 7:00 show you a drawing, three main arteries. So, I asked myself first the question of 7:07 if there's something that's building up in the arteries, right? Either inflammation or LDL or plaque or 7:15 something. Is the blood the same everywhere in the body? 7:20 Yes. Right. Yes. because nobody thinks there's a special blood that goes to 7:26 your heart and a different blood that goes to your spleen etc. Right? So the 7:32 answer was yes. Second question are the blood vessels the arteries the same the 7:38 splenic artery is the same as the coronary artery? Yes. Yes. Nobody thinks different. There's 7:46 not like some special artery that goes to your heart. So therefore, if the problem is 7:52 something in the blood that's building up or inflamed, 7:58 it would happen in the splenic artery and the heart artery. You think so? 8:04 Because they're the same. Okay. So then I said, "How many people have I ever 8:09 seen with heart attacks?" Lots. Dick Cheney, Bill Clinton, Uncle 8:16 Fred, you know, thousands of people in the ER, etc. How many people have I seen 8:22 with spleen attacks? 40 years in medicine, the answer is 8:28 zero. And I've probably asked a 100,000 people in my career, like every time I 8:35 do a talk on the heart, I'll say, "How many people have seen anybody with a spleen attack?" One guy raised his hand. 8:42 But it turns out he me he he meant a the guy had a ruptured spleen from an injury. So that's not what I mean. So 8:49 nobody So why is that? Nobody has liver attacks, kidney attacks, eye attacks, 8:57 foot attacks. They have heart attacks and brain attacks called strokes. No 9:03 other arter organ has attacks even though the blood is the same and the 9:09 arteries are the same. which led me to think it's got to do with the organ, not 9:14 the blood flow, blood supply. So that was the first thing. The next thing is I don't know 9:21 how many people I saw who the story was they walked up Mount Tam or Mount 9:27 Manadnok or somewhere with their wife. They felt a little funny. They had a little chest pain. The wife said, "You 9:34 have to go to the cardiologist." They go to the cardiologist. He does a test. He says, "You're 94% blocked or so. If you 9:43 block anymore," they always wag their finger at them. You're going to have a heart attack. 9:48 And I thought to myself, if all the blood to your heart goes through these three arteries and you're 94% blocked, 9:58 that means you have 6% blood flow to your heart. How did you walk up Mount? 10:03 [laughter] And you mean if you block from 6% to 4% 10:10 or 3% that's going to kill you? 6% is 0%. 10:16 Effectively, you don't have any blood flow to your heart. So it doesn't matter 10:21 if you block anymore because you're already get at zero or close. So that 10:27 was weird, right? So then I did the thing which you would think all doctors 10:32 would do but as far as I know I'm the only one who's done it which is I said 10:39 okay there must be studies that look at people who they say die of heart attacks 10:47 and they do an autopsy on them and they see how many of them have a blockage in 10:52 the air in the blood vessel leading to the part of their heart that had a heart 10:58 attack, right? I mean, if somebody says your your sink is leaking, you go to 11:06 call the plumber, he looks at the pipe leading to your sink and says, "Nope, 11:11 it's not blocked. It's good. It's not the pipe." So I looked and it turns out what I 11:17 found was when they started this heart attack theory called the thromboprosis 11:23 theories uh that the cardiologists didn't believe it. They said no it's got nothing to do 11:31 with the blockages. There's a robust blood flow through secondary collateral 11:37 vessels. Got nothing to do with blockages. So I looked and it turns out that there 11:44 were a bunch of studies from the 40s and 50s60s looking at the percentage of people who 11:51 died of a heart attack. So these are the worst of the worst, right? They had a heart attack, they died. Not everybody 11:57 dies. The highest number I found was 78%. 12:03 And the lowest number was 18% had a blockage. 12:08 Which means that somewhere between 22% and 82% 12:14 had no blockage in the area in the blood vessel leading to the part of the heart 12:20 that had the attack. So what did they why did they die? [laughter] 12:26 Like what happened to them? Now even if you have 78% 12:31 that doesn't mean that was there before the heart attack 12:36 because then I read a book called the eopathoggenesis of coronary artery disease or coronary 12:45 heart disease by a pathologist named Georgio Baldi. You can go and look it up 12:51 the book. uh and he studied people who died of heart 12:57 attack for 40 years with autopsies and he said 13:03 41% of them have a blocked artery leading to the part of the heart that's d that died and of those 41% half of the 13:13 blockages clearly came after the heart attack not before. In other words, there 13:19 was damage to the heart and like a dam. So the there's a damage to the river and 13:26 you get backflow and buildup of the of debris in the in the river coming into 13:32 the dam. Right? So we're talking 18% of the people had any blockage before the 13:41 heart attack of the people who died and had an autopsy. So that made me uh being 13:48 the reasonable person that I may be said that's not the cause of heart attacks. 13:56 Now at the time I didn't know what was which is fine. You don't have to know 14:01 what's true in order to know what's not true. That is a fundamental principle of 14:08 logic, rational thinking, and supposedly science, even though most doctors have 14:14 never heard of it. Uh, but you know, you don't know if somebody says, "Oh, I I 14:21 had video at a at a 7-Eleven where somebody was shot and killed and it was 14:26 a man between 18 and and 60 wearing jeans. So, you're under arrest." 14:33 You say, "Well, I wasn't there. I was in Singapore, not Boston, where and I have proof and you prove that you weren't 14:39 there, etc. And the guy says, "Until you prove to me who killed, tell me who 14:44 killed the guy, you're under arrest." Like, that's ridiculous, right? Nobody 14:50 would nobody would say that. All you have to say prove is you weren't there. And so you you've we've proven that 14:58 that's not the cause of heart attacks. Now again I didn't know what was but 15:04 eventually that became clear that it has to be something to do with the heart and 15:10 the brain not the blood vessels. So it turns out 15:16 that uh what happens is there's an imbalance in the energy generation in 15:23 the heart and the heart goes what's called glycolytic which uses means it 15:29 builds up acid just like if your muscle exceeds its capacity like your leg you 15:36 build up lactic acid and you get a cramp right everybody knows that and why 15:42 doesn't your leg have an attack because your leg stops and you flush the lactic 15:47 acid out and then you go on your way. Same thing happens in your heart. Your heart doesn't isn't efficiently burning 15:55 fuel and and so it uses accessory pathways to ferment which means lactic 16:04 acid which causes cramps which we call anggina. The difference with your heart and your 16:10 brain as compared to the spleen in your liver and your foot is your heart and the brain can't stop. So they keep 16:18 going. They build up more acid that causes a breakdown of the tissue which is what we call a heart attack. 16:26 And there then the debris builds up river which is why you get plaque 16:32 buildup upstream. And all of the changes you see, every heart attack is accompanied by a drop in 16:40 the pH, acidity, and it c it's come because there's 16:47 damage to the to the organ. Now, that can come from a lot of reasons. Bad food, emotions, EMFs, heavy metals, 16:56 stress, decreased parasympathetic tone, lots of reasons cause that. and 17:03 decreased small vessel uh blood flow, which was one of the things that 17:10 diabetics get more heart attacks, but they don't get more plaque, which is a 17:16 quote anomaly, which means it doesn't make sense. But it does make sense if you realize that 17:23 all the blood flow or 90ome percent is small vessels, not big vessels. and 17:29 diabetics get small vessel disease and so that's why they get heart attacks. 17:34 Fla, it turns out, is an adaptive response as is everything in the body. That's the 17:43 that's the magic of thinking differently. So a blood vessel is a 17:48 basically a protein tube that has fluid in it that's waterbased 17:55 which we call blood. Now, it turns out that every time there's a hydrophilic 18:01 tube like a protein and water that there's an interface 18:08 between them which forms a protective gel. 18:13 You can prove that absolutely like you put a beaker of water and you suspend a 18:19 horizontal hydrophilic tube and the water will start moving in the tube 18:25 because there's a gel that's formed on the inside of the tube that's negatively 18:30 charged and that pushes the positive charge into the water. they repel and 18:36 start moving and it all has to do with the formation of this gel layer inside 18:42 the tube. So that happens in your arteries and that gel layer protects your artery and your blood vessels. Now 18:51 the gel layer is in the it's increased with things like sun exposure 18:58 and earthing connection to the earth and when somebody puts their hands on you or 19:05 when you're sitting next to your dog at least most dogs uh or uh you know 19:11 thinking good thoughts and if you put your cell phone next to this beaker the gel layer stops forming. 19:20 and the blood the velocity of the blood stops moving. So now the question I asked myself if 19:29 you're a blood if you're a body and you're smart and you have a person who 19:35 hasn't protected their arteries with this gel because they never move they're never out in the sun they never 19:41 connected to the earth they have bad relationships they eat bad food and their dog died. So the body patches the 19:50 weak vessels with plaque. That is a brilliant strategy. 19:57 Uh because then it won't burst. Now the doctors come along and say, "Oh, 20:03 you see you have plaque buildup. We're going to scrape off the plaque." 20:08 [laughter] It's like, "Oh, you have a cracked pipe." And so you put some uh cement on 20:14 it so it won't break. I know the problem with why you don't have good water flow 20:19 because the cement is restricting the flow. So, we're going to get rid of the cement. 20:26 What happens next? It bursts. So, that's what happens or could happen. 20:32 So, the body doesn't want that. So, it makes plaque. Now, that does have a 20:37 problem just just like your pipe. You will get less blood flow through there. 20:43 But what are you going to do? The guy doesn't go out in the sun. He doesn't eat good food. He's got toxic relations. 20:50 You got no choice. So, you do the best thing you can, which is to make plaque. 20:55 Well, the other thing the body does, and you touched on this quickly, is make collaterals. So, it'll sprout new 21:01 vessels to make up for that, do its own bypass. And you can show that, you know, if you 21:09 the the thing is the the coronary angiogram where they stick the dye in 21:16 was a very cleverly organized test that that specifically doesn't show the 21:23 collateral vessels because it's got heavy dye and they put 21:28 it under pressure. So it only goes through the big blood vessels, the major 21:34 coronary arteries, which is very convenient because then they could say, you see, that's where all the blood goes 21:41 and yours is blocked. And it actually has no relevance to the 21:48 the blood flow to your heart. But then they can draw their pictures and say, 21:53 see, this is 70 80 90% blocked. Even though how can you possibly see the 22:01 percentage of blockage on a two-dimensional picture of a 22:06 three-dimensional tube with stuff in it. And so you show it to one cardi one 22:13 radiologist and he says, "Oh, it's 40% blocked." Cuz he doesn't like doing stances. You show it to another one who 22:21 has, you know, he's invested in stances and he says it's 80% blocked. 22:27 [gasps] because they can't tell and they do it based on 22:34 personal preference. All right, I want to start to piece together. You've shared a lot and I'm 22:41 making some connections, but I want to make sure we all are. So, when somebody 22:46 has cardiovascular disease, it starts in the heart. The metabolism changes. We 22:53 had the lactic acid buildup, death of that tissue, and this can happen in the brain as well. 23:00 And then what you're saying is over time to compensate the body is going to block 23:06 off vessels, but that happens afterwards. Do I have that part right? It can happen before too. 23:14 It happens anytime you have blood vessel and and a non not a robust protective 23:23 layer which happens to everybody who doesn't take care of their water 23:30 essentially then you will have nonprotective gel layers and your body 23:36 will make plaque which is why most people have some plaque. Okay. Originally, I thought it was a 23:42 secondary step to the heart being damaged, but you're saying those can happen independently. Yes. 23:48 But what's that's not what causes the heart attack. What caused the heart attack is an energetic metabolic 23:56 deficiency of the heart. And you know, you can even the heart creates a energy 24:02 tooidal field around it. And you can map it and you can measure it. And interestingly, it goes about 6 ft out, 24:11 which the powers that shouldn't be know that, which is why they wanted to keep 24:16 people 6 feet apart. So, they didn't have a connection heart-to-heart with 24:21 other people. So, they're separated and lonely and scared and all the rest of 24:27 it. So, that was part of it, but you can see that energetic field shrink. You can 24:32 actually feel it. And that's the precursor to having a heart attack. 24:38 Okay. I just want to make sure I understand the nuance here. You explained the structured water piece and 24:45 that coating inside the vessels. And when we lose that, the body smartly 24:51 puts a cement layer and coats that to protect it. I just want to understand insultwise 25:00 what's causing that versus damage to the heart itself or is it the same thing that doesn't cause damage to the heart? 25:07 No. But the thing that's causing that disruption in the gel in the vessel, is that the same thing that's causing the 25:14 metabolic changes in the heart? To a certain extent, yes. Bad food, bad 25:20 water, no connection to the sun or the earth or loving relations, stress, 25:27 toxins, vaccines, heavy metals, all that usual stuff. Pharmaceutical drugs, 25:35 all that. Those are all energetic insults 25:41 which inhibit you from forming a gel layer and inhibit the normal 25:48 ability of the heart to create a robust electromagnetic field. 25:55 Then it's can't metabolize properly. Starts building up lactic acid and then 26:01 the whole thing happens. And by the way, turns out there's a plant that gets rid 26:07 of the lactic acid and restores the blood flow and helps the parasympathetic 26:12 nervous system, which in a way helps prove that it doesn't do anything to the 26:18 plaque. And that's called stfanths. And it's a extract of seeds from a vine grows in 26:25 Africa. And stfanth seed extract has been used to treat this constellation of 26:32 anga, unstable anga, congestive heart failure, heart attacks for hundred years 26:38 incredibly successfully because it the the lynch pin in this is 26:44 the buildup of acidity and stfanthus extracts 26:49 get rid of the acidic buildup. So that's why the natives called it the 26:55 gift from paradise. And what can that reverse or can it at 27:00 all? If the tissue is dead, I assume that heart tissue can't be fixed. But is this for tissue that's just starting to 27:08 be affected by this? Somebody has chest pain, shortness of breath, loss of 27:14 energy that you can feel their some people can actually feel their their 27:19 field electromagnetic field shrinking into their being. And I mean you can 27:25 feel that with people. They're they're like shrunken into themselves. 27:31 And then you can give them stfanths and you can expand the field. Makes them more metabolically efficient. gets rid 27:38 of the acid and it breaks that cycle. It leads to heart attacks. And for somebody who has had damage done 27:46 to this coating in the vessels and they're at the point where they have plaque buildup, how reversible is that? 27:54 And what would you need to worry about that? Okay. And I was going to say what would the person do? But you've named a number 28:00 of insults. Obviously, you want to reverse those. You don't need to do anything. Your body will take care of that by making 28:06 collateral circulation. Okay. Will the body eventually absorb 28:12 that and repair it or it'll just work around it? No, it'll just work around it. Okay. 28:17 I mean, I've seen some people who it it gets less, but it it doesn't it doesn't 28:24 seem to make any difference. Okay. The other piece I want to make sure we delve into is this theory that The heart isn't a pump 28:32 you've disproven that the heart is a pump. So, this ties into what we've been 28:38 talking about here. You've mentioned energy field. There's a lot more going on with this organ than conventional 28:44 medicine would lead us to believe. But let's start with the pump piece and then we can move from there. 28:50 Right? So, with everything in life, it's good to define your terms. Otherwise, 28:56 you don't know what you're talking about. [snorts] So, when I say the heart is not a pump, what do I mean by a pump? 29:04 I mean a pressure propulsion device. What does that mean? It means that the 29:11 reason the blood moves around the body is it's propelled by the heart. 29:17 And the way it's propelled is the ventricle, especially the left ventricle, contracts. It's a muscle. It 29:26 contracts. That increases the pressure and propels the liquid, i.e. the blood 29:32 around the body. That's what we're told. Again, so I, you know, that's the claim. 29:40 Now, I looked at this claim, you know, 40ome years ago and said, okay, how long 29:46 are the tubes in the body? 10,000 miles 29:52 or so. So, you got a one pound organ 29:58 with walls like this thick and you got sticky fluid in there in 30:04 those tubes that are 10,000 miles long if you put them end to end with stuff in 30:12 the tubes that's approximately the diameter the internal diameter of the 30:18 tube. In other words, the red blood cells are about the same di, you know, 30:23 size as the diameter of the tube. What are the chances you can get a one 30:30 pound organ to push sticky fluid 10,000 miles? 30:35 Not good. Not good. And not only that, but the the 30:41 the this fluid, if you go do a velocity chart at different points, it's going 30:49 fastest the blood as it enters the heart and it's going the same speed as it 30:56 exits the heart. And then it slows down and slows down and then it gets to the capillaries, the little vessels, and 31:03 then it does like a little shimmy and stops and then it gets going again. 31:10 Now, if you're a farmer and you want you have a a like a tank 31:16 and then you go down to a pond and then the the water in the pond is 31:23 stopped and then you want to get the water from the pond up back to the tank. 31:30 Where do you put the pump? Down at the bottom. Not at the at the tank. 31:37 Right. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get it down at the bottom and pump back up to the tank. Pump it back up. But that's exactly the 31:44 opposite. Here they're saying the pump is at the top. And by the way, the pump 31:50 doesn't make the water go any faster. And I thought, that's faking weird. Cuz 31:56 you would think it would go slow in and faster out and then it would go down and 32:02 then it would stop. And how are you going to get it back up? Because I can tell you if I want to go 32:09 from San Francisco to New York on a bus and the bus is going to stop in St. Louis and there's no engine in the bus, 32:17 I'm not getting in the bus cuz I don't know how if it stops in St. 32:23 Louis, it's going to get back going again to get to New York. So that was 32:28 the second reason I thought this is wonky. The third reason is if you look at the 32:35 outflow of the left ventricle and I saw this when I was working in a kath lab 32:41 it's an arch like McDonald's arch right now imagine you have a garden hose and 32:48 you put a a flexible hose a spigot at your house right put a flexible garden 32:55 hose off the spigot and it's shaped like an arch and you turn it off shaped like 33:02 an arch and you turn it on full blast because you got to pump a long way. So 33:08 that's going to really push the blood and the and the garden hose like this and it can bend. What's going to happen 33:14 to the garden hose? It's going to straighten out. It's going to straighten out, right? Has 33:20 to. So you know what happens to the aortic arch as it go as you go into cy 33:27 which is the pumping part? It bends in. 33:33 And [clears throat] I remember I saw this, you know, and I asked the card, I said, "Look, look, [laughter] 33:40 it bends in. It can't possibly bend in if it's pushing through there, 33:46 right? Can't possibly do that." That's the opposite. Yeah. Yeah. So, he said I said, "How come it 33:52 does that?" He said, "That's the way it does." And I said, "I know that's the way it does because I can see it." He 33:59 said, 'Th that's just the way it does. So that told me there's no way that's 34:05 pushing through there. No way. So that led me again. So my rule is 34:13 don't worry about what is true. Just think about what isn't true. I didn't kill that guy. I don't know who did. 34:21 Don't ask me who killed him. That's not my job. I just know that I didn't do it. 34:28 So, I know at that point there's no way this is a pressure propulsion device. 34:34 And I know that the pump has to be in your leg. 34:39 Has to be just like if you got a pond, it has to be at the pond. But I didn't 34:44 know what the pump was. Then I saw an experiment Gerald Pollock did. Same one. 34:51 You get a beaker of water with a horizontal tube. And just the nature of 34:57 tubes interacting with water, capillaries interacting with blood forms 35:02 a gel layer which is negatively charged that pushes the positive charges into 35:08 the liquid water the blood and they repel and start moving. 35:14 So that happens in your leg, in your spleen, in your eyes, everywhere. And then as it coaleses from capillaries to 35:23 venules to veins, just like a river, if it goes from a wetland to a single 35:30 river, it goes faster and faster, right? Yeah. Just compression. It's called Berni's 35:37 principle. So that gets it go faster and faster. It gets to the heart. The heart 35:42 functions like a like a hydraulic ram. So there's like a it goes into a tank. 35:50 The walls of the tank expand, right? Into a tank. The walls expand. 35:57 You with me? Yeah. That creates positive pressure in the tank and negative pressure on the other 36:06 side of the gate. So then when the positive pressure differential is enough, the gate opens 36:14 the the arch sucks in because of the negative pressure and the and the blood 36:20 falls down to the capillaries. Then it gets re-energized and comes back 36:26 up. So the function of the heart is to stop the blood 36:31 and creates this spiral. And you know the Sufis say when the 36:38 blood is stopped in the heart and there's a spiral formed that's when God 36:44 enters into the human being. Now I don't know if that's true but that's when the 36:50 creative force of life it always works through spirals and the heart goes 36:56 spiral down spiral up spiral down spiral up. And when it spirals up, it's like 37:03 plunging your toilet that helps to suck the blood up to the heart. 37:09 And you can prove that. And so that's what the heart is doing. It's acting like a suction device to stop the blood, 37:18 create this vortex so that you know, God or the electromagnetic field or the 37:26 energy of the universe or creation enters into you. creating this electric 37:32 this uh tooidal field that allows you to live as a full human being. And if you 37:39 miss the picture and think the heart is a pump, [laughter] 37:45 you're a doofus. That's a scientific term for uh you've 37:50 missed the point. And this connects to we were talking about before when we were talking about plaque where this 37:57 layer in the vessels is what we were talking about got disrupted before when plaque formed. So 38:06 just to form the full circle here. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And they both come from the same 38:12 causes, which is pure food, pure water, sunlight, earth, 38:18 being part of an electromagnetic field that's nourishing, including relations 38:24 and thoughts and traumas and, you know, sucking on metals and vaccines, poison 38:31 in you, and pharmaceuticals and all the rest of it. Let's bring high blood pressure into The truth about high blood pressure 38:36 this, a common ailment for many. talk about the mechanism and what 38:42 changes when the body ramps that up. So, you got a garden, right? And you got 38:48 a you got a pump and a and a a hose, right? Your hose I don't know if you can 38:54 see me, right? I can. Yeah. Your hose is this big. And your pump is getting old and leaking, etc. 39:02 Right. and you don't have enough money to fix your pump, but you can change the hose 39:09 to keep so you can keep gardening on the other side of the garden. What do you do to the hose? 39:15 Put your thumb over the end. Yeah. Yeah. You But you can you can do 39:21 more than that. Get a new hose. Well, yeah. I'm just trying to think of how to if 39:27 your hose is defective and your pressure is low. If you're fine, but it's too 39:33 it's this big and you're not getting enough pressure. Yeah. So, what get to your hose? 39:39 Get rid of it. Get a thinner hose. Get a smaller diameter hose. Y not a thinner hose. 39:45 Well, that's what I meant by thinner. Yeah, that's what you meant by thinner. But not thinner wall hose. 39:51 Just No, smaller diameter. Thinner. Yeah, smaller diameter. Yep. Cuz that'll keep the pressure up until 39:58 you fix your pump. or go to the end and put your thumb over and then or go to the end and put your thumb over 40:04 it. So, you got this bad pump in your body in your tissues because you're 40:09 never out in the sun. You're never connected to the earth. You have bad relations, bad thoughts, you get 40:14 vaccines, take pharmaceutical, you got a bad pump, no gel layer. So, your body 40:21 says, "Oh, we don't have enough flow here." and our brain is, you know, we're dizzy and erectile dysfunction because 40:27 there's no pressure and, you know, we're tired all the time. I I want to um keep 40:33 the flow going. Okay. Okay, guy, fix your pump. But you 40:39 don't listen. You're right. You don't do anything different. So, the body says, "Okay, I'm 40:47 going to stiffen and narrow the tubes so that we get more flow. 40:53 that raises the pressure and that's called high blood pressure 41:00 which is a wonderful adaptive response to somebody who won't fix their pump. 41:06 Now the doctors in their brilliance come along and say h you see you have high 41:12 blood pressure we're going to give you a bigger hose. [laughter] 41:19 So then you have a bigger hose and now you're back to being dizzy and you can't 41:24 get an erection and you're tired. But that's just because those are the side 41:30 effects of the drug, right? But that's because you've stopped 41:36 the body from doing what it w what it needs to do. And the only thing it could 41:42 do because you're too dumb to fix your pump. So it narrows the tubes. Now, you 41:48 could come along and say, "Yeah, but Tom, if you keep narrowing and narrowing and narrowing, eventually you won't have 41:54 any blood flow and then you'll die." And that's true. So, if you don't want your body to have 42:00 to narrow the tube, you might want to fix your pump 42:06 and then the body stops uh narrowing the tubes. And which is why I never had to 42:12 give anybody high blood pressure meds. I just fixed their pump and then the body 42:18 just re, you know, got a bigger pipe hose because it doesn't want to do that. But 42:25 if that's the only choice it has, you and the point is this is not a disease. 42:32 This is your body's strategy to deal with a person who's not living properly. 42:40 It's brilliant. And that's the way you look at all signs and symptoms. The body's trying to tell 42:46 you something and conventionally we mask those instead of listening. 42:52 Yeah. You get a splinter in your finger and you don't take it out. What happens next? 42:58 It gets inflamed, red, warm, Pus, right? Is the pus is that a 43:07 disease? I.e. Do you have an infection? Or is that the body's way of getting the splinter out? 43:13 That's the body's treatment, right? It's obvious. Except we were taught it's an infection. Give the 43:20 person an antibiotics, keep the splinter in. I mean, then you take the splinter 43:25 out. But let's say you can't. So, it's got an infection. 43:31 [laughter] Or somebody breathes in crap in their lungs like chemtrails and pollution and 43:38 glyphosate, etc. And then what happens? You make pus and cough, etc. Why? To get 43:45 the crap out of your lungs. Go to the doctor. He says you have bronchitis. It's caused by an imaginary 43:53 virus. So, we're going to stop it and keep the debris in your lungs. 43:59 Great. What happens then? Well, you do that twice a year for 20 years and then 44:05 you get lung cancer. What is that? That's a bag of toxic 44:10 debris in your lungs. How did that happen? Well, it built up. [laughter] 44:18 Why did it build up? Well, because I stopped it from coming out twice a year 44:23 for 20 years. What do you think is going to happen 44:28 if somebody stops you from taking the garbage out of your house? My prediction, cuz I'm so smart, is you 44:35 will build up garbage in your house till you grab it up, put it in a bag, 44:40 and bring it out. Yeah. And they wrap it up. It's called a tumor. 44:46 It's not a disease. It's somebody puts garbage in your house, you put it in a 44:52 bag and then you take it out to the curb. And if you keep putting more garbage 44:57 than you can put in, you run out of bags, then it's called metastasizing. 45:03 In your opinion, whether it be a tumor, a really high prolonged fever, 45:09 we can use any sign or symptom. And obviously, you just shared your general thoughts on this. It's the body doing 45:16 the right thing for you at that time to assist in moving through this in the 45:22 best way possible. But is there ever interventions you can think about where 45:29 we can assist the body even though it is doing what it knows best? 45:35 Yeah, you can fix your pump. You can take the splinter out. You can 45:41 not breathe in so much toxic debris. You can, you know, fast or take stuff to 45:50 and do enemas to clean out the debris so that it's easier to not build up toxic 45:56 material. That's called medicine. for somebody coming to this conversation right now 46:03 who's lived a very conventional life to this point, accumulated a lot of toxins, 46:10 hasn't been cognizant of these variables you brought into the conversation to this point. 46:16 You mentioned enema, but what are some of the things to 46:22 catalyze the detox process to get back to a baseline 46:28 and try and purge the body of all this accumulation? What would you recommend? 46:33 Yeah, but it's entirely deped on the history and the story of the person. our 46:40 our whole new biology clinic our whole the whole way I did medicine there's no 46:46 diseases that's a myth uh there and and you can 46:51 easily prove that like you go okay rheumatoid arthritis right that's a disease right a lot of people have so 46:57 what's the definition is somebody with swollen joints you know 47:02 sometimes bilaterally symmetrical they're red hot swollen and they have positive rheumatoid factor 47:10 That's an antibbody which supposedly causes rheumatoid arthritis. 47:15 So then the next person comes in, exact same symptoms. 47:20 They test rheumatoid factor negative. What do they have? Rheumatoid factor 47:27 negative rheumatoid arthritis. And I thought, you got to be kidding. 47:33 That's like I have this uh you know it's like a little farm and I have animals 47:39 and some of them are chickens and they have wings and go like this and the others are four legs and they go meow. 47:46 Those are non feathered chickens, right? That's what that's the kind of 47:52 level of talking we're talking about. They're not non-feathered chickens. Those are cats. Those people don't have 48:00 rheumatoid arthritis. And by the way, there's never been a study published, and I'm 100% sure of this, that shows 48:08 that rheumatoid factor, the antibbody that we're told causes rheumatoid 48:13 arthritis, actually causes anything. Nobody has ever injected rheumatoid ar 48:20 factor into healthy animals or people and showed that it causes any problems 48:25 at all. Never. And if somebody disagrees, they're going to have to show me that study, which means there is no 48:33 such thing as an autoimmune disease. They made that up. So, it depends on how 48:39 you got there. So, one of these people maybe they had a deficient diet for their life. They only 48:47 ate they never ate any like bone broth or anything with collagen in it. And so, 48:52 their joints are weak and that's why they're having trouble. another person 48:58 it's you know an emotional traumatic experience and that's why their knee 49:03 hurts. It's all started then and then there is the guy who you know couldn't 49:09 walk for 5 years his legs were weak. So what happened? He was fine you know 49:15 playing on a soccer team his dad's uh machine shop. Then he goes in gets a flu 49:21 shot. week later his legs are paralyzed and he five years later still can't 49:26 walk. What happened to him? He got poisoned by a flu shot. So those need 49:33 all different treatments. The idea that you could treat them the same based on a 49:38 diagnosis is ludicrous. So I can't say generic 60-year-old, 49:47 you know, here's what to do. But I can tell you there's basically from what 49:53 I've seen four ways people get sick. So you can think of it like this and think 49:58 of which ones. So number one is injury like you fall off a horse, break your 50:04 leg. So that happens. Number two is you're starving. Food, water, love, 50:12 shelter, security, lots of things, right? People are starving and that 50:18 causes troubles. A lot of that's food. Number three, and maybe one of the 50:24 biggest, well, there's only four, but you're being poisoned. The main offenders are vaccines and 50:32 pharmaceutical drugs, but there's a lot of other glyphosate, EMFs, you know, 50:38 there's the list as long as your arm. And the fourth and biggest in my opinion 50:45 is you're delusional. And that means you think things that are 50:51 nonsense. And when you think things that are nonsense, you do stuff that's 50:56 ridiculous. And actions have consequences. 51:01 Let me give you an example. I had a a guy knew is a anthroposophical doctor 51:07 supposedly holistic but he believed in viruses which are imaginary. 51:12 Um we can get into that or not but um so because he did believed in viruses he he 51:18 spent his career treating AIDS people with HIV drugs because he believed there 51:24 was such a thing as HIV and it caused AIDS which is not true. So he was delusional. And then came COVID. And so 51:32 because there was a virus that might kill him, he took three COVID shots. And 51:38 after the third one, two days later, dead in his bed from a blood clot, 51:43 stroke sort of thing. So why did he die? You could say he died from the shot, 51:49 right? Caused blood clots. Or you could say he died because he believed in 51:54 viruses. That's why he died. And then the shot was a a normal consequence of that 52:03 belief system, right? That's what you do. And then the shot had a consequence. 52:09 So if you believe your heart is a pump and blocked arteries cause heart attacks 52:15 and high blood pressure is genetic [gasps] and you have bronchitis because you are 52:22 invaded by a bacteria or a virus, therefore you should stop it, you will 52:27 do stuff that is enimical to your health and you will suffer the consequences. 52:35 When it comes to how these symptoms express themselves, 52:41 how much of it in general has to do with the insult versus the person's constitution? 52:49 Because we do have so many different symptoms, signs and symptoms that we call different diseases. 52:57 How do we get different things with similar 53:03 insults is what I'm getting at. Yeah, people are different. Things have 53:08 different meaning to people. You know, the interesting thing about it is western medicine and so-called science 53:16 doesn't have any science of the body geography. 53:22 In other words, if you say, well, why do you get shoulder pain instead of knee 53:28 pain? No reason, right? It's just dumb luck. But in Chinese medicine ordic 53:35 medicine or even bofield tuning med, the shoulder has a different energetic 53:41 quality than the knee. There's different meridians that go through that. So this one is a sign of 53:48 like spleen imbalance or liver congestion and the other is a sign of 53:54 you know heart meridian whatever right I'm just making that up so these these 54:00 are meaningful to the life of the body 54:05 this is a different way of expressing itself and then we have different emotional trauma insults that you know 54:13 the knees have certain you support us kind of um images and 54:21 shoulders are what you're carrying and you know all these things go into how we 54:27 manifest the insult and that's that's the interesting part 54:32 of medicine and the fun part is what happened to this person 54:38 and in order to do that you need to know who they are what their story is and 54:44 what has happened to down and that's not something you learn in 54:49 medicine. Let's come back to the structured water piece. We know a healthy person in their 54:56 vessels is going to have this layer of gel-like water protecting them. There's a fourth phase of water 55:02 Let's bring in water and hydration as most people think of it 55:08 and any interaction there. So the water we're drinking versus this water in the 55:13 body, right? So again, you know, I I always 55:18 look at these things. So what what's the claim? The claim that we learn in like what 55:25 third grade, fourth grade or so, is that matter exists in three phases. Solid, 55:32 liquid, gas. So there's there's solid copper, there's molten copper, there's 55:38 gaseous copper, right? There's ice, water, liquid water, and steam. Okay? 55:46 And then we're told we're 80ome uh you know, percent water in our tissues. 55:54 So because there's only three choices, I ask people, which phase of water is the 56:00 water in our cells in? Well, it's not ice, right? And it's not 56:06 steam, so it's got to be liquid water. So, do you think you're a a a bag of 56:13 liquid water slloshing around? No, because I know your work. Yeah. But so, it doesn't feel like that, 56:21 right? So, then I'm an ER doctor and I see people get shot and bayonetted, etc. 56:27 You know how many people I saw squirt water out of their body? Zero. Right. You ever seen that? 56:33 No. Blood but not not water. Blood but not water. But you know 80% of 56:40 the of the tissues the so-called cells supposedly are just contained liquid 56:46 water. But there's there's no blood there's no water squirting out of anybody. Never 56:51 seen a puddle of water beneath somebody's stretcher in an ER. 56:57 So I start thinking there's something wrong here. [laughter] this, you know, and that's how I I came 57:03 to everything. This this doesn't make any sense to me or my favorite 57:09 expression is this is weird, right? Cuz if there's supposed to be 80% water and 57:16 I can cut you up and I never see any water in you, anybody. 57:22 And so then you say, well, what you know, jello 90% w 97% water. What phase 57:28 is it in? Number four, it's not ice. It's not water because you can 57:34 poke it and nothing comes out. It's definitely not steam. So, it turns out 57:39 there's a fourth phase of water. It's called a gel phase, structured water, 57:45 crystalline water. Gerald Pollock calls it easy water. Lots of different names. 57:50 And it's charged. And all of the water in us is structured water. 57:57 If it isn't, it's a puddle and then you have edema. 58:02 So what does it mean to have like arthritis in your knee? You have fluid buildup. That's liquid water. So what 58:10 happened? Your normal gel which is creates energy and a charge and 58:17 and you know like lubricates, right? gels keep, you know, the movement is 58:24 easy as opposed to just water. And something happened. You lost that 58:29 ability to keep it in a gel. So, it becomes a puddle. And that's not right. And everybody can 58:36 see it. And they say, "You see, I got water on my knee." Right? You do. You 58:42 have liquid water in your joint. And that's not right cuz that's not supposed 58:47 to be there. And then you go back to how does the water structure in you. It's 58:54 because you have water, pure water, electrolytes like sodium and potassium 59:01 and calcium etc. And then you have sunlight and earth and all the things I 59:07 said and that creates structured water. 59:12 Now, you know, it isn't like if you drink structured water, that water goes in 59:19 into your knee and creates structured water. But if you drink charged water, 59:25 which is another word for structured water, it makes it easier than taking 59:31 dead water with no charge and resurrecting that and creating a charge. 59:38 Um and that's why all the healing waters lords and all these fa fancy places 59:43 highly charged water. It makes it easier for you to keep the 59:49 charge and the structure of your water which is everything. That's how the blood flows. That's how your joints 59:56 work. You know, that's what makes the lining of your lungs. And if you get a 1:00:02 fever, you liquefy it so that you can get rid of it easier. It's an amazing 1:00:08 system when we miss the whole thing because we don't do science. 1:00:14 Okay, let me see if I get this at this point. In the body, we have structured water. 1:00:20 There is water we're consuming that could be just say reverse osmosis where 1:00:26 we've taken the contaminants out, but even better than that is to charge the water. And it 1:00:35 sounds like that's an in between where it'll facilitate the body to make 1:00:40 this structured water easier than say a distilled or a water. 1:00:46 Right. I wouldn't drink arro or distilled water. And then electrolytes you mentioned too 1:00:52 as being. Yeah. There's no charge in it. So, you're you're having to use your 1:00:59 energy, and I would say your precious energy, not to do fun things and garden and run 1:01:07 and have creative thoughts, but to just keep the the the water in a somewhat 1:01:13 crystalline state. That's your only thing you can do. 1:01:19 So, you're tired all the time. And then you don't have enough energy to run your heart. And then it builds up lactic acid 1:01:26 and then you have a heart attack. Well, let's do a water hierarchy and talk about from nature and 1:01:34 interventions the best we can start with for our drinking water and then all the way down 1:01:41 from there. I mean the best water is a pure spring that the water emerges from 1:01:48 the earth on its own power and as it comes up this is in a way so-called 1:01:54 primary water. It turns out new water is being made all the time contrary to what 1:01:59 we're told. Water is a uh renewable resource as is basically oil and gas. 1:02:08 We're not told that. we say it's a finite fuel made from fossils. It's not 1:02:13 made from fossils and it's renewable. That's a whole another subject. Um same 1:02:19 with water. And when it comes up on its own, it's ripe and for drinking and 1:02:25 using and it comes up in a spiral formation and then sometimes it flows in 1:02:30 streams in spirals and it dissolves the rocks. So it has all these minerals in 1:02:36 it and it's highly charged and that's the water you find at place like Lords. 1:02:41 It always comes up on its own power and it's highly charged. You can test it with meters and things, 1:02:49 you know, and then you have lower grades which don't come up on their own like a well 1:02:56 or you know the town collects water and then they put all sorts of chemicals in it and that's all that's lesser grade 1:03:05 water. I don't know if about hierarchies. It's just none of that's the best. And at that kind of water, you 1:03:14 have to at least charge and that may be enough, but sometimes you have to get 1:03:20 rid of the poisons in it. And so there's various ways of doing 1:03:26 that, filters and arro and distill it. Then you put the minerals back and then 1:03:31 you flow it in vortexes over magnets or with stir it or 1:03:38 something like that. You have to get the charge back. That's the most important part. 1:03:44 Okay. Naturally from the spring where it comes up on its own. Number one. Number two would be forced from the ground 1:03:51 through like a well. Then it sounds like, which is going to be the most likely case for a lot of 1:03:59 people at least starting before they have a chance to find a spring and get into that whole 1:04:05 You'd be amazed. Almost everywhere there's springs that the old people know about. Okay. While they're doing the research 1:04:11 and figuring that out, let's get into the details of somebody using distilled The protocol Tom uses to purify and charge his water 1:04:17 or RRO. And you shared this, but I really want to make sure we get into what minerals, what device you'd use to 1:04:25 vortex. Let's go right through the steps. Starting with at the top, would you pick distilled or RORO 1:04:33 if you were getting water in a city? What I do is I put we we have town water 1:04:40 into our house. And so every week I go and collect from a spring that does what 1:04:46 I just said. And then I stir it with an analemma wand, which is basically 1:04:52 charged water. Or I vortex it through something called an MEA water device, 1:05:01 which creates a vortex and it creates electromagnetic field and charges it. They're they're both doing the similar 1:05:08 thing, charging otherwise pure spring water. 1:05:13 Now that with the water that comes into the house, we put it through a 1:05:20 a pretty extensive carbon filter to get rid of everything. It doesn't get rid of 1:05:27 fluoride, but we don't have fluoride in our water. And then it goes through a ba 1:05:32 a spiral copper pipe and that um 1:05:39 energizes the water and then the water comes out in the bath or in the tub and 1:05:46 sometime or in the sink and then I put some basically sea salt in it. Uh, and I 1:05:54 typically use something called purple bamboo salt, which is sea salt that has 1:06:00 been burned in bamboo shoots for nine times. And that mineralizes the water. 1:06:08 And then I put it through either this analma water wand or mea water vortexing 1:06:15 thing. And now I appreciate that not everybody 1:06:20 will want to do all that, but I'm retired and I don't have anything to do except garden and mess around with 1:06:26 water. So that's what I do. So those first two steps where you're filtering with carbon and then putting 1:06:34 it through the copper pipe, it sounded like is that through the whole house? 1:06:39 Yes. Okay. And the garden. Got it. And then the next step is the salt. Will you only use that 1:06:47 if it's town water or will you put that in your spring water too? No, I don't put that in the spring 1:06:53 water. I don't do anything except stir it or vortex it. 1:06:59 And that water then goes through um like the showers. We have these shower heads 1:07:05 which are six different crystal vortexing tubes that create a suction 1:07:12 just like the heart. In fact, he modeled it after the heart the heart. And so there's one of one [clears throat] of 1:07:18 them is a ruby and an emerald and quartz and other things. And that creates like 1:07:24 a a rainfall effect. So, all of our showers and all of the water we water 1:07:29 the garden comes from the town 1:07:35 uh filtered copper tube out with a shower head that 1:07:41 makes this spiral formation. And what's the brand of that shower head? It's called Aquadea. 1:07:48 [clears throat] We sell it on our website. It's a guy, German guy who looked at this whole thing and created 1:07:56 this uh model of how the And you can feel when the water comes out, it 1:08:01 suctions the you can feel the suction so it pulls your hand against the shower 1:08:07 head. And is that something you have to change every six months and you get rid of the 1:08:12 whole thing or you never once you never change it again? Okay. And then the salt is added. What 1:08:20 brand is that special purple bamboo salt? I mean, I use one called Insan 1:08:27 and there's also one called Prior, I think is the name of it, but I use 1:08:33 Redmond salt and Celtic salt and Himalayan salt and Hawaiian potassium 1:08:39 salt. I use different salts, I think. In fact, I have probably eight or 10 1:08:45 different salts. And I think you should use different ones regularly just because they have a different mineral 1:08:51 composition. And as you share, it's obvious you're not fearing salt. How do you determine 1:08:57 how much you're using? Is it just to taste? Yeah, just taste. And then what about how much water to 1:09:04 drink on a daily basis? We have this societal norm of something around eight 1:09:10 glasses a day where we're bringing bottles with us and sipping on 1:09:16 them throughout the day, making sure we get that eight glasses. There's different people saying different 1:09:22 things, but in that range, how do you look at amount of water we 1:09:27 should be drinking? The reality is is and if you look at normal biochemistry 1:09:33 99% of it's total BS but they [clears throat] do talk about like the 1:09:39 KB cycle right glucose and goes through all these different steps and the end 1:09:45 result is ATP which they say is energy which isn't but they say that it is uh 1:09:51 and water and carbon dioxide. So in other words, there we're told that 1:09:57 we generate water from the metabolism of food, right? That's what we're told. And 1:10:03 when you put some something through a fatty acid metabolism, you generate a 1:10:08 lot of water, which means we're always generating water in our body. And that's 1:10:14 our water. That has our signature. It has our energetic blueprint. 1:10:20 So I think that's the best water for us. 1:10:25 So I don't drink much water. I drink a glass of lemon of water with 1:10:32 lemon juice in the morning and then typically I don't drink much 1:10:38 water after that. Now it's really hot here and sweaty and so I drink things 1:10:44 like beet kavass where I ferment beets and put some salt in it. 1:10:50 We make water kefir and so I drink that and my wife makes als based wi with our 1:10:57 own herbs that she fermentss. So I definitely drink that. Um 1:11:04 but I don't drink plain water otherwise. Okay. So on a typical day, one glass in 1:11:10 the morning with lemon, what is happening when people 1:11:16 are trying to get say eight glasses a day and they're bringing those Stanley bottles with them throughout the day and 1:11:22 sipping on it constantly. Obviously, you're not doing that. There's a reason. Why is that? 1:11:29 So, let's say you have a a faulty pump in your basement, right? 1:11:35 And then you want to circulate the water through your house, right? And the pump is getting old and 1:11:42 you don't have that much money, so it's leaking a little bit. And so the pressure in your shower is a little 1:11:48 weak. You with me? Yep. So what would happen if you added twice 1:11:55 the amount of water to this system, especially at the pump? 1:12:00 It would overwhelm it. And then what would happen? It would break. 1:12:06 And leak, right? Yep. And it would make it even harder to pump the water, 1:12:13 right? Yeah. More work for it to do. Yeah. It's got It's too heavy. It's got all this water in it. So most people 1:12:21 have faulty pumps. The pump being the structured water because they never 1:12:26 connect with the earth and the sun and love and it's etc. And so they think 1:12:32 they're dehydrated. So they add more water to their pump and 1:12:39 that makes it harder to circulate. And then they say, "Oh, I feel even worse. I 1:12:45 must need to drink even more." And the next thing you know, they have swelling in their ankles 1:12:52 because the water is now impossible for their body to circulate. So it just 1:12:58 falls down to the lowest place and that's called edema 1:13:03 and they feel tired and sluggish and nothing works right and then the health 1:13:09 people tell them to drink more water and it gets worse and they wonder what's the problem. 1:13:17 So that's what happens to people who drink a lot of water. Okay. So again on a typical day you're 1:13:23 having one cup of water. By the way, if you're thirsty, then you should drink water. That's how you know. And you 1:13:31 should drink water with some salts in it. Well, that's where I was going next. 1:13:37 Your typical one glass of water a day with lemon. When do you take in electrolytes? 1:13:43 I eat salt with every food I eat. And if it's really hot, like it has been, maybe 1:13:50 once or twice in the day, I'll put a half a teaspoon of like bamboo salt in a 1:13:56 glass of water with some lemon in it and drink that. Say you're out traveling, you don't have 1:14:02 access to your regular spring water or the water you're filtering at home. 1:14:09 What brands do you rely on in that case? In that case, I use a Flaska water 1:14:17 bottle, which by the way, we also sell. But the reason is it's a a bottle that is has 1:14:25 inscriptions on it and it's based on the you know sacred geometry 1:14:31 and just the the geometry and the 1:14:38 form of the of the bottle structures the water on the inside. 1:14:44 So I get whatever [clears throat] water I can in glass bottles. I try to never 1:14:49 use water in plastic bottles because it dissolves that. And I put that in the flask bottle and 1:14:57 that will structure it for me. I have a very interesting story about the flask 1:15:02 bottle which really, you know, I've read the research and you can see the how it structures the water. But 1:15:09 I had a friend who lives near me and she bought Flaska 1:15:15 uh they're basically glass bottles and she bought one for her and her son and 1:15:21 her uh husband and after a month or so she came to me 1:15:26 and said, "Tom, the the water in my Flaska bottle has black gunk floating 1:15:34 around in it." And I thought, not my husband or my son. And I thought, well, 1:15:40 that's weird. It must be something in the water bottle, you know, that's leeching off into the water. So, I took 1:15:48 the water bottle and tried it myself and I gave her a new water bottle 1:15:54 and it didn't make the black gunk for me and it did with the water bottle that I 1:15:59 had been using that never made black gunk. And then we tried it with another one. 1:16:05 Now, one of the principles of structured water is, and the reason Gerald Pollock 1:16:11 calls it easy water, exclusion zone water, is that when you form a gel, it 1:16:16 pushes out things that are not supposed to be in the water. So, that's why it's exclusion zone. So, 1:16:25 I about a month later, she ended up getting diagnosed with ovarian cancer. 1:16:33 And my take on it was there was something in her, you know, she would 1:16:38 like use the wa drink out of the water bottle straight. And so there was some 1:16:43 of her that was getting in the water bottle and that was causing the water in 1:16:48 the water bottle to be structured and push out some black yuck toxic stuff 1:16:56 that was unique to her. because those same water bottles and my water bottle 1:17:01 didn't do it to me or husband or her son. And that told me this water bottle is 1:17:08 probably the best diagnostic tool you can imagine because if it's pushing out black gunk, 1:17:17 there's something wrong. Interesting. Have you heard that with any other people? 1:17:22 I have. I have asked people and nobody else has seen that and I'm on the 1:17:28 lookout for somebody who wants to try it. And this lady that had cancer, was she 1:17:33 okay in the end? Let's just say no. Sorry to hear. Yeah, but it I mean it was a amazing 1:17:41 story of and of course I don't know that that's what really happened. You know, I'm speculating. Uh but I ended up 1:17:49 getting renewed [sighs] respect for the power of water and the 1:17:56 power of putting uh water in its right form and its right geometry and its 1:18:03 right energetic environment uh what you can find from that and for 1:18:08 people who are interested in that I would check out the work of VA Austin who's done a lot of work on messages 1:18:15 from water and what water can tell us and basically our memory is in water and 1:18:21 consciousness is in water and water is sort of everything 1:18:26 given the importance of water and what you know any other modalities that you found are 1:18:33 helpful putting your water under moonlight other sacred geometry 1:18:38 using trace minerals other supplements ways we can condition that water 1:18:45 to make it more powerful Nothing I can say for sure. I mean, I've seen a lot of those and sunlight and 1:18:52 blue bottles and I think it's great to for people to experiment. 1:18:58 I I think also having a relationship with the water and you know I I actually 1:19:04 thank the water in my body every day for keeping me going and keeping me alive 1:19:10 and keeping me healthy and clean. So I think the more we can do to create 1:19:16 a relationship with our water inside us and outside us the better. But I I don't 1:19:23 know anything that I can say do this. I've seen the research on the water wand 1:19:28 that we use called an analemma wand and I've seen the research on meawater.com 1:19:35 uh the way they do it and it's pretty profound stuff. You know, the research 1:19:41 that I pay attention to is you water plants with normal water or this water 1:19:47 and see what happens. Or you feed animals, etc., not biochemical pathways 1:19:53 and stuff like that. I don't care about that stuff. I know at least at one point you're a 1:19:59 fan of the Aphora water. Are you still? I mean, I think they're working on it. I 1:20:05 think that it's not perfect though. Can you say why? I do have an a water 1:20:10 anora water device and I use that. Okay. Can you say what they need to 1:20:15 perfect there? You know, anything besides water that comes out on its own is not perfect. So, 1:20:22 anytime you're uh cleaning the water, etc., you know, there's compromises. 1:20:28 And what about carbonated water? I know most times that's something that's done to that water afterwards in processing. 1:20:35 How do you feel about that? So, I make carbonated water. Uh, it's called water 1:20:40 kefir. And basically, I put water kefir grains in, you know, in water with lemons, 1:20:48 sliced lemons, and it becomes carbonated. And so, I I like that. 1:20:54 Whether it's good for me or not, I don't know. But I I like it. And I I would be loathed to not drink that kind of my 1:21:02 fizzy uh water kefir. When it comes to water, we've talked about drinking water. 1:21:09 We have water we're going to get through food. You mentioned the body making 1:21:15 water. I just want to understand the physiology there because we also can 1:21:20 charge our water before we take it in. In the end is all the structured water 1:21:26 in our body whether it be from drinking from food. 1:21:32 Does that and I assume it would have to go through our system and be processed in a way 1:21:37 to make that structured water and if so where does it happen? It happens that's 1:21:44 called life. You're an energetic field and your 1:21:49 energy takes in whatever water you're drinking and or whatever water you're making. It charges it and somehow 1:21:57 distributes it to where it needs to go. And how that happens, I have no idea. 1:22:02 I didn't know if it was specifically the mitochondria in energy production making that water 1:22:08 or something like that. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. What about diet? What do you recommend 1:22:14 for somebody taking on a healthier lifestyle like we're talking about today? What's the base? Food quality is everything 1:22:20 The base is um it's like people say, "So Tom, you I should read the ingredients 1:22:25 before I eat something." And I always say, "No, because if it has ingredients, don't eat it." 1:22:32 Like carrots don't have ingredients, right? It's a carrot. A banana doesn't 1:22:38 have an ingredient. Meat doesn't really have an ingredient. They might say, you know, roast beef or something. Um, if it 1:22:46 has ingredients, you should be suspicious of it. And then it's it's all about quality, 1:22:53 which is the problem with modern science is they have no conception of quality. 1:23:00 Uh, so I'm pretty much done thinking food has stuff in it. In other words, I 1:23:08 don't eat tomatoes cuz they have lycopine in it. I don't eat um 1:23:14 cod liver oil. I don't eat cod liver oil anyways, but if I did, I don't do it because it has vitamin A or vitamin D. I 1:23:21 don't eat butter because it has linoleic acid. I don't even know if it has I 1:23:26 don't do any of that stuff. I don't even not even convinced those things are real 1:23:31 anymore. I eat butter because I know the cow. I 1:23:36 know how it was produced and I like the effect of eating butter and I know that 1:23:42 people who ate a lot of butter had really good health. I eat food from my garden. I'm mean I'm 1:23:50 a big gardener and cuz I know how it was grown and I know how it was picked and I 1:23:56 know how it was cooked and that's what I eat. And I make I pick berries from our 1:24:03 garden and make them into drinks. And you that's how you should eat. Now, 1:24:08 should you eat meat? I think that's part of a normal human diet. Should you eat eggs and dairy products? I think that's 1:24:16 part of a normal human diet. But only raw milk and particularly raw milk 1:24:22 that's made into kefir or yogurt or butter. I don't drink like plain milk, 1:24:28 but I make, you know, goat milk kefir cuz I like goats and I like the taste 1:24:34 and I like how I feel when I eat goat milk. And that's how I would suggest 1:24:39 everybody do it. Not that it goat milk has more linoleic acid than this. You 1:24:45 don't even know if that's true. And every time you do that, you separate yourself from your own experience. 1:24:54 And that's a problem. Whereas if you stick to what you can feel and what you can smell and what you can taste and how 1:25:02 it feels and asking yourself the question, who did that and how did they 1:25:07 do? Then I think you'll come out with the right diet. All right? So get rid of the labels. 1:25:14 Quality matters. Quality is everything. But what about percentage of animals 1:25:21 versus plants? calories, macronutrients. Do you look at 1:25:26 any of those? Forget about calories, macronutrients. Forget about all that stuff. 1:25:33 It's mostly makebelieve. You eat, you know, I mean, for dinner, I 1:25:40 eat uh steak from Hugh and Hana's cows. I know the cows. I knew them before they 1:25:48 were. and we cook it in lard that we get from their pigs 1:25:54 and then I eat vegetables from our garden. What the percentage? I mean, I don't I 1:26:02 don't know. And how do you feel about timing of eating, eating within a certain window, 1:26:08 intermittent fasting, and then snacking? So, we typically have breakfast around 1:26:17 8:30 to 9. That's partly because it's after so-called chores. So, we feed the 1:26:24 goats and I feed the cat who lives outside and I prepare the cat who lives 1:26:30 inside food and then I water the garden and stuff like that. 1:26:35 uh sometimes do other garden chores and come in and eat around 8:30. And it's 1:26:41 usually a pretty big breakfast like eggs and vegetables and sometimes sourdough 1:26:47 bread with butter. And then I'll eat a little bit throughout the day, but usually not very 1:26:54 much. And then we eat dinner around 4 to 4:30. 1:26:59 And that's usually the meat or fish, wild salmon sometimes, or mostly meat 1:27:06 and vegetables and some fruit and things like that. And then I don't eat anymore 1:27:13 after that. The only after that say five only water or water with lemon in it. 1:27:22 What about longer fasts including water fasting, doing extended water fasts? 1:27:27 Yeah, I mean there's a lot to be said for that and I think it's good. I haven't done that myself 1:27:34 probably because I like eating too much and um but I know there's a lot of people we have a oncologist who works 1:27:43 with our clinic a little you know she's like a a referral and she only does 1:27:48 water fasting for cancer patients. So there's a lot of benefit for that. We 1:27:53 also tend to put people on eating once a day. So they'll eat like at six o'clock 1:28:01 at night and only eating once a day. And I think there's a lot of good for that 1:28:06 too, especially with like diabetics and a lot of people who are otherwise chronically ill. 1:28:13 So there's a lot of uh you can get from uh changing the timing and changing the 1:28:20 composition, what you're calling the macronutrients, you know, how much fat, how much meat, how much vegetables, how 1:28:27 much fruit, changing that up and see how you do. Coming back to these variables that 1:28:34 impact the water in our body and structure it, sunlight, grounding, 1:28:39 connection with animals, other people. How do you look at getting those inputs 1:28:46 on a regular basis or is it just organic for you knowing that they matter? 1:28:52 I mean, we've structured our life around that, you know. So, we have goats and we 1:28:58 have chickens and we have cats. And, you know, like it or not, I have to go out 1:29:03 at six and feed the goats and give them fresh water and take Lucy her cat food 1:29:08 and you know, the other ones are yowling at me to eat. And, you know, that 1:29:14 happens no matter how I feel about anything. And then I have to go outside 1:29:20 whether it's 10° out or 90 or whatever. And then we do it again in the evening 1:29:26 and fresh water and give them new hay and it's, you know, open the gates so 1:29:31 they can go out and stuff. I mean, it's important enough to me. That's how I structured my life. 1:29:39 Uh, I don't want to live, you know, in a concrete jungle anymore. 1:29:45 It doesn't doesn't work for me. And I know not everybody has to do that, 1:29:51 but I I think everybody has to be as much out in some kind of nature as 1:29:57 possible. Otherwise, you're going to suffer. Obviously, nature is best when it comes 1:30:03 to these things, but for you or other people, do you recommend hacking them and 1:30:10 bringing them into the home through things like grounding mats, red light panels? There's spurtily lights that can 1:30:18 help with vitamin D. Yeah. I mean, so for instance, I never care about vitamin D. That whole thing 1:30:23 is hugely misunderstood, and I'm not even convinced anymore there are 1:30:28 vitamins or hormones in us. And that's a whole long subject, but I mean, we use 1:30:34 red lights and candles when it's dark out, and I use a sauna space sauna in 1:30:41 the winter to sweat. And I mean, I've got every device that ever been, you know, because people send 1:30:48 them to me and I don't you tend to use them very much. I have one little thing 1:30:54 that I keeps the boogeyman EMFs away from me, which I don't know if it does 1:30:59 or not. And I have these uh 1:31:05 cards that have this code in it that I use for healing. And that's kind of all 1:31:11 I do. Uh, so I I'm not a big fan of doing all those things. I suppose if I 1:31:19 was living in a city and didn't get outside, I I'm not sure which of those I would 1:31:25 do, but red light uh sauna, space sauna, I think works well. Are you taking any supplements at all? 1:31:32 I take stfanths for 20 years because everybody told me it would kill me and I 1:31:38 wanted to see if that was true and I can tell you it isn't. Um, 1:31:44 and occasionally I take something called chiliget, which is the concentrate of of 1:31:51 goop from plants grown in high altitude. And I take that when I want to have 1:31:57 something really yucky to taste. So that's what I take. Pretty potent stuff. How do you take it? 1:32:05 Uh, we have little tablets and I just suck on them, which is really yucky. But 1:32:11 I like yucky stuff. I've been eating yucky stuff for 50 years. 1:32:16 I'm with you. I get it. Yeah. Let's come back to EMFs. They've come up 1:32:22 a couple times. You mentioned this one device. You're not sure if it really does anything. What is that? And then How Tom protects himself from EMFs 1:32:29 any other modalities or things you're doing to keep them at bay? 1:32:37 I mean the problem with EMFs, so you know the sun is a frequency admitter and 1:32:42 so is the moon and so is the earth. And without getting too much into the weeds 1:32:48 on that, we're meant to be exposed to a wide variety of low intensity frequ 1:32:56 electromagnetic frequencies. And what a an EMF is is by definition 1:33:04 highintensity single frequency or few frequencies because that's how it works, 1:33:11 right? You can't run your cell phone on the sun or the moon. You have to have 1:33:17 certain frequencies, higher intensity that that are picked up by the cell 1:33:24 phone in ways that I don't really understand, but that's how I'm told it works. 1:33:30 So that's not something humans are used to. And therefore, it changes your 1:33:36 electromagnetic field. And that's everything. That's how we structure the water. We are electromagnetic fields. We 1:33:44 are electrical generating devices. And if every anybody disagrees with that, I 1:33:50 would love to hear how come you can measure an EKG or an EEG or an EMG, 1:33:56 you're measuring the electrical activity of your heart and brain and muscles. And 1:34:01 so even though doctors will tell you you're not generating electricity, they use those tools to assess the health of 1:34:09 the organs. So I'm suspicious of the negative 1:34:15 effects of all man-made electromagnetic fields. 1:34:20 Um so for instance I don't have any u mobile devices. I don't have a cell 1:34:26 phone or a tablet. I use this one wired computer. You know it's wired through an 1:34:32 Ethernet cable and that's all I ever use. And we don't have Wi-Fi in our 1:34:38 house. Um, we just have these two Ethernet cables 1:34:44 and you know, we checked out the house with a bio geometry person and a 1:34:49 building biologist to make sure it was in as safe zone as we could. 1:34:56 And then we have multiple devices around the house. And again, most of 1:35:02 them have been given to me. I don't even know remember where they came from. Um, 1:35:08 I've done podcasts with many of them. They're like boxes or you know like uh 1:35:15 orone generating things like this and I have things like this and I have things 1:35:23 like uh Lacovski uh things all over the place and I have 1:35:29 this that I carry around in my pocket. And I have no idea what happens with any 1:35:34 of these things really except I seem to be okay. And 1:35:39 you know, I I understand the theory of transmuting the the waves into something 1:35:46 less harmful. That's what they say. And whether they do that or not, I don't 1:35:51 really know. But some of them have some interesting research that suggests it's doing something helpful. 1:35:58 I may be canceling the ball out by having so many of them and I don't really know what to tell somebody to do. 1:36:06 I would check out the different devices and use whatever instincts and science 1:36:12 you can bring to bear on it. Okay. So, no Wi-Fi in the house. That's impressive. 1:36:18 Any neighbors that have Wi-Fi that you're picking up? Probably. Yes. which is why we have the 1:36:25 devices to mitigate that. I know they have these Faraday cages. I 1:36:32 don't have one yet, but how do you think about that over top of the bed? Yeah, I wouldn't do that cuz I want to 1:36:38 be part of the Earth's field. So, I wouldn't sleep in a Faraday cage. 1:36:45 What about bringing grounding mats into the house? So when you're say in an interview like this, you're 1:36:50 ground put your feet on a grounding mat. You're you're encouraging that those uh 1:36:55 field to go through your body out into the grounding mat. So but I do spend 1:37:03 probably somewhere between half an hour to an hour a day barefoot on in the grass, you know, mostly in the garden. I 1:37:11 do most of my garden w work work barefoot and um when I'm not barefoot it's with 1:37:20 um uh barefoot shoes some of which are grounded 1:37:27 or I'll have leather moccasins which are grounded and I have a walking stick that's 1:37:34 grounded so I uh it's got a copper thing and a coil so I carry that around 1:37:40 sometimes. All right, as we're wrapping up, a couple more loose ends I want to tie up. 1:37:45 One being ATP. You quickly mentioned this not being our energy currency. ATP has nothing to do with energy 1:37:52 Let's talk about that. So, a guy named Gilbert Ling did his uh PhD thesis on sodium potassium pump, 1:38:01 which is one of the uh crowning jewels of modern science. Right? The the 1:38:07 question was always how do mamalian cells live in a sodiumrich environment 1:38:14 but they concentrate potassium inside and push the sodium outside. Right? So 1:38:20 that that's when you lose that gradient that gradient creates essentially the 1:38:26 voltage the charge of living tissues. So this is as fundamental to modern 1:38:35 science as it gets that the reason this happens is because the the the sodium 1:38:41 potassium pump in the membrane pumps the sodium out in the potassium in and his 1:38:47 whole PhD thesis proved that there's no such thing as a sodium potassium pump. 1:38:54 It's all basically just nonsense. And he proved that by stripping the 1:39:00 membrane off the cells and the sodium potassium distribution was the same. 1:39:08 And he also proved that ATP has nothing to do with energy. Uh I don't even know 1:39:15 if it's actually there. We're not a biochemistry set. Uh but we the the 1:39:22 medicine it's it all comes back as I like to say it's it's a contest between 1:39:28 Adam and Adam. So one atom is a dam 1:39:35 that were made by God uh which is a creative consciousness energetic field 1:39:43 and the other atom is a tom and were made by bouncing billiard balls 1:39:49 which randomly collide with each other and then you get a frog and the bouncing 1:39:55 balls keep bouncing and then you get a gorilla and then they keep bouncing and then you get and and Hilda 1:40:03 and that's nonsense. We're not made of molecules or atoms. That's basically 1:40:10 just a story. It's just theory. And if you even know how they came up with the 1:40:15 atomic theory, [laughter] it's a load of hoie, which by 1:40:22 the way also means there can't be atomic bombs because there's nothing to split. 1:40:27 So that's just sort of fear stuff. That's a whole another subject too. Um 1:40:32 but anyways, um so ATP is a chemical which may or may not be in us and has he 1:40:41 proved it has nothing to do with energy. There's no more energy in a triphosphate 1:40:46 bond than any other simple molecule. It's got nothing to do with it. He 1:40:53 wondered whether it's somehow like with when you make Jell-O, you take gelatin 1:40:59 proteins, you mix it with water, right? Nothing happens. So you heat it and that 1:41:05 unfolds the proteins and then they they attach to the water and then they make jell-o. He wondered whether ATP 1:41:14 attaches to the proteins that are the skeleton in our tissues and that allows 1:41:19 them to interact with water and that allows it to gel and create a charge. So 1:41:25 it looks like it's got to do with energy but it doesn't have anything to do with energy except in creating 1:41:33 the environment for the cells to become charged or the tissues. 1:41:38 Okay. So still a little bit of mystery there of how that work is being done at the end. 1:41:44 The whole thing is a mystery how you go from an energetic field and 1:41:50 consciousness into like stuff. Like that's a pretty big nut to crack. 1:41:57 And then the other guys tell us, by the way, the stuff is made of atoms and 1:42:03 atoms are this little nucleus. And then all the way over in New York City, 1:42:08 that's where the electrons are, right? And then in between there's nothing. And 1:42:15 so your hand, your finger is made of atoms made of nothing. And the table is 1:42:20 made of atoms made of nothing. Right? That's what they say. So how come I 1:42:26 can't stick my finger through the table? I don't buy it. 1:42:32 It's just a story that makes you think this is so complicated. I can't possibly 1:42:38 understand it and it must be all random and nobody's in charge here and I don't 1:42:44 have any any agency. I don't have anything to do with this. It's just bouncing billiard balls and then you get 1:42:51 Lou Garri's disease. That's it. Don't worry about it. Well, 1:42:56 like you said at the beginning, you don't necessarily have the answers, 1:43:02 but there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean that you can't prove that the current theory is incorrect, 1:43:10 which is the first step in my mind. And then what we're talking about here, how it actually works, 1:43:16 once we've disproven something, that can be the next step for science or people to go and figure out. 1:43:25 I know I didn't kill that guy. I don't know who did it, 1:43:30 but I know it wasn't me. I know there's no atoms. I know ATP hasn't got anything 1:43:36 to do with energy. I know there's no sodium potassium pump. I know the heart 1:43:41 isn't a pump. I know blocked arteries don't cause heart attacks. I know viruses don't exist or never been shown 1:43:49 to exist. I know bacteria don't cause illness. Parasites mostly don't exist 1:43:54 and the ones that do have never been shown to cause illness. I know all those 1:43:59 things for sure. It doesn't mean that I know what causes somebody to be sick. I 1:44:05 don't know who killed that guy. I know it wasn't me. That's called thinking. 1:44:12 And you're saying exactly what I'm saying. I don't know how many doctors I've asked I' I don't know how many 1:44:18 doctors I've said there's no evidence that there's a chickenpox virus. 1:44:23 Right? Instead of saying here's the evidence for a chickenpox virus. Here's 1:44:29 the definition of the illness. Here's how we found the virus. They say so what 1:44:35 causes chickenpox. Who killed them? And until you tell me 1:44:40 who killed him, you're guilty. That is scientific illiteracy, 1:44:47 which is the problem today. That's the problem with the doctors and 1:44:53 the scientists in particular. They're scientifically illiterate. 1:45:00 They don't know how to stick with here is the evidence because if they told you the evidence of how they know there's a 1:45:08 virus that caused chickenpox, you would say, "Are you kidding me? [laughter] 1:45:17 You got to be kidding." Cuz that's they but they don't know it cuz they don't 1:45:22 care or whatever reason. I don't know why they don't know it. I didn't know it either. So, I was just as guilty as 1:45:30 anybody else. But I did have a sense. I knew enough to know look into what what 1:45:36 isn't true first. Well, viruses have come up a couple times and them not being real. 1:45:44 This is the last open loop I want to close with you before we part ways. How do we know this? Viruses don't exist 1:45:50 Well, it's the other side. How do they prove viruses exist? 1:45:55 So, let's do a quick walk through. Let's talk the polio virus, right? So, they 1:46:02 get somebody who has a disease. They're paralyzed, right? And then they die. So, they take some of their spine out. They 1:46:10 don't see a virus. They don't have any sensory impression of a virus, right? 1:46:17 All they know is the child died and their spine is diseased. So they take this spine, grind it up in 1:46:24 a blender, put it in some water, inject that into the brain of two monkeys. One 1:46:30 monkey dies, one got paralyzed. And they said, there we isolated the virus. 1:46:39 I read that and I thought, you have got to be kidding. Because 1:46:44 first of all, you don't know that there's a virus in there. [laughter and clears throat] And second 1:46:50 of all, maybe monkeys don't like having dead spinal goop injected in their brain 1:46:56 and they didn't bother to inject like healthy spinal goop or even just saline 1:47:01 into there. See if that just injecting stuff into monkeykey's brains. And then 1:47:07 they did that for 50 years and thousands 100,000 monkeys that was 1:47:14 how they proved the existence of the polio virus. And then in 1953, somebody said, "I'm 1:47:22 going to inject normal spine into these monkeys brain. See what happens." You know what happened? Monkey died, got 1:47:29 paralyzed. He said, "We've disproved how we knew there was a a polio virus. But don't 1:47:37 worry, we we have a new way of proving it. Let's do it with measles virus." 1:47:44 And I gonna maybe get something here or Yeah. So 1:47:51 1954 came the gold standard of proving there's a virus paper by John Enders. 1:47:58 Most people haven't read it, but I've read it 50 times. So he takes the mucus 1:48:05 from a a child they say has measles. They don't look for a virus. They can't 1:48:11 find a virus. They've never seen a virus in any biological fluid of any sick 1:48:17 person. Never. And they say it you can't see it. So they take somebody who who 1:48:24 has measles. They say they take the mucus, they centrifuge it, get some of 1:48:31 the debris out, and then they have a vial of like uh like centrifuge snot 1:48:37 from somebody with measles. Then they put that on a culture of 1:48:43 monkey kidney cells and they add kidney poison antibiotics 1:48:49 and then they take away the food of the kidney cells and then they add horse serum and fetal bovine serum and some 1:48:57 other serums and then they add some chemicals like trison. Three days later, 1:49:03 the kidney cells die. And they said, "See, that's called the 1:49:09 isolation of the measles virus, the proof that there's a measles virus." 1:49:16 And I read that I thought, and to this day, that is how all viruses have been 1:49:23 isolated, proven to exist. No exceptions. Now, here's the interesting thing. In 1:49:30 this same paper that he got a Nobel prize for, he says the following. A 1:49:37 second agent was obtained from unincculated culture of monkey kidney cells. The cytoathic changes it induced 1:49:45 in the unstained preparation could not be distinguished from the viruses isolated from measles. In other words, 1:49:53 he actually took everything the same except he didn't put anything from anybody with measles. 1:50:01 Uh, and so he didn't inoculate the culture, put the antibiotics, took away 1:50:06 the nutrients, added the serums and the chemicals, and it broke down the same. 1:50:13 Now, I don't know about you, but that tells me it had nothing to do with anything from the measles person. 1:50:22 Right. Yeah. It's finished. You should have said 1:50:27 this is We're not doing this anymore. And that has been repeated a 1:50:34 dozen times and we repeated it ourselves and you always get the exact same thing 1:50:41 that proves that is the way they prove the existence of viruses to this day. 1:50:48 It's called the viral culture. It's the gold standard of viology. If you get rid 1:50:54 of the viral culture, there is no viology left. 1:50:59 Why can't they just let it go? It's good business. What do they you know they make billions 1:51:07 and terrorize the people which is the function of government uh by selling 1:51:13 them vaccines for chickenpox and measles and mumps and then they tell you by the 1:51:19 way oh so the reason we give you this vaccine is so you make antibodies right 1:51:26 co shot and Jesse we know antibodies protect you 1:51:32 for life from the disease, right? You you heard that you get measles, you get 1:51:38 antibodies, you never get measles again. You get chickenpox, you get antibodies, you never get chickenpox again. You get 1:51:45 the flu, you get antibodies. Well, then you get the flu again. But that's cuz the flu is smart and it evaded the 1:51:51 antibodies. Then you get HIV and you get antibodies. And Jesse, that's because 1:51:57 antibodies mean the virus is going to kill you. And I remember when I first heard that 1:52:04 1984 from Gallow, he got on the TV and said, "We've discovered the cause of 1:52:11 AIDS. It's HIV and we know because people have antibodies." 1:52:17 And I turned to my friend and said, "Wait a minute. I just spent four years 1:52:22 learning that antibodies mean I'm protected from the disease. And this joker just got on the on the TV and 1:52:30 said, "Antibodies mean I'm going to die from the virus." Like, who changed the 1:52:36 rules? With no explanation, 1:52:41 [laughter] you got to be freaking kidding me. 1:52:46 And to this day, they say, "Oh, antibodies may mean you're immune. It 1:52:52 may mean you're not immune. We don't know. Never mind." That's why we're 1:52:57 vaccinating you. But if you have antibodies, we still need to vaccinate you because we can't trust the 1:53:03 antibodies. And thanks very much for coming. Uh trillion dollars and all this 1:53:08 research and we get to close down the world and kill all the chickens and come 1:53:14 after your cats and dogs [laughter] all because of an imaginary virus. It's 1:53:22 great. It's It's a great gig if you can get it. Well, Tom, we're going to end it there 1:53:27 for today. I appreciate you, this conversation, your true seeking nature, your 1:53:35 inquisitive nature, the work you're doing is so important. Thanks again. 1:53:41 All right, Jesse, take care. Now that you're done, you're going to want to stick around here and catch this 1:53:46 other incredible episode. You don't want to miss it. I'll see you over there. Life is just all about harvesting energy 1:53:52 from the environment and [music] using it to create order. And if you don't have enough energy in the system to maintain the order, you get disease. 1:53:58 Things start to break down. And [music] so the first place that the body receives a sacrifice is the ling